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And Ralph de Bricassart
He was a character, a passionated man, tormented
by a problem.
I think, he has really loved Meggie and God
too.
But in church he also loved the fascination
of power.
These three loves together made a conflict
and have broken him.
Are you a Catholic?
No, but it is a religion which has impressed
me very much.
We had a young Jesuit Priest as a technical
adviser, who had no ambition.
The Jesuits pledge they will not persuit of
a future in the church.
He was a person, whom you could feel his spiritual
being.
I was surprised. I thought a priest had to
be againt these series. I didn't see why.
He wasn't here to give the script his blessings.
His job for the production was to create it
as authentic as possible.
He didn't say he gave his support, but he
didn't say
he was against it either. Actually he didn't
say anything he won't say.
What is your religion?
It is a mix. I made a choice from different
religions and chose the best of it.
Are you a religious person?
I think religion is in fact a way of life
style.
If someone really acts from the doctrine of
a church, then he belongs to this church.
I act from my own religious conviction, till
a certain point.
Do you believe in a divorce?
Yes. of course!
And abortion?
I don't believe in an abortion, but I don't
believe one can
forbid a woman to have one or to haven't one,
it is a personal problem;
it shouldn't be executed if it isn't absolutely
necessary.
Why is the character of Father Ralph so attractive?
It is a perfect love story accordingly full
of frustration.
The more obstacles and conflicts the beloved
have, the better the story is.
The story was absolutely forbidden and it
was completely unreachable.
It is difficult to get such a great love story!
Do you think the story of Meggie and Father
Ralph might be happen in real life?
Oh yes, sure it could be happen! My only doubt
was when Ralph became a
Cardinal andhe preserved his relation with
Meggie.
I think it is very human both had their love
story on the Island.
But I think, it is very difficult the church
does allow
the love affair is going on, after he became
a Cardinal.
If I was a Catholic, I think it was very difficult
to accept this.
How was your relationship to Rachel during
the shooting of the series?
It was great! On a certain point it gave rumors
it wasn't:
we had to repeat scenes and I should be unhappy
with her acting.
But there is no sense in it, I think she was
wonderful.
She is a very attractive and talented woman
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who sometimes pops up and we had a nice relationship.
She married Bryon Brown, right.....?
He was her husband in the series .....
Yes, it was love at the first sight. They
fell in love immediately.
Your role in The Thorn Birds was very discordant.
Do you have many opinions pro or contra about
it?
We had many talks, why we created a priest
with such character traits.
Though for more than 2/3 it was a genuine
moralized story.
It is possible, a priest doesn't preserve
his faith till the end.
We are human beings, no Gods!
And the cardinal has learned much.
Especially, the purport of all,
when he broke his vows and made him a better
priest.
Most difficult problem is at the end when
he is coming back to her.
That's why I believe it is a rather moralized
story,
also when I mean "moralized" between quotation
marks.
Did you ever visit the Vatican?
Yes. For my religious feelings it was great!
It was more the sensation of a spectacle than
a religion.
For example the cathedrals of Chartres and
Notre Dame give me a feeling
of authentic spirituality. It is a very personal
interpretation.
But about the art, the Vatican is really unbelievable!
What do you think about Catholic Priests?
I had the impression Catholicism is prescribed
by strict commandments.
I had this conviction till I met this Jesuit
Priest, whom I talked about before.
He took me to a Priests-seminar, where I took
part in the lessons of praying,
together with the participants and their supervisors,
and I lived between these persons with their
stable faith.
There was a lot of authenticity between them.
What do you think aout the Pope?
I think, he really believes what he is preaching
and he has a great integrity and charisma.
Did you have once a friend in church - a Priest,
Bishop or Cardinal?
Never, till I met this Jesuit Priest, who
gave us his advice about The Thorn Birds.
I do regret now, I never tried to know
the seminar- people better. They were very
important: poorness, obedience and chastity
and they really believed in it.
Imagine: every afternoon you have visited
the prisoners in this parish, you had to be
the only one who remembered these persons
in this pitiable situation.
Did you feel a religious destiny in your life?
No.
Do you think, it is difficult to keep the chasity
vow?
Do you think Priest will really consider it?
I think the majority do consider it.
But when it was in my hands it would prefer
it on the basis of voluntary.
I think, for most people it is very important
to have the
feelings of love and to have a family.
That's why I would prefer the choice.
But I do understand why this regulation exists.
In this way the sexual energy can be channeled
and result in spiritual energy.
Do you have interest in oriental religions?
Oh, yes very! There are facets in Zen and
Buddhistic lifestyle I like.
I don't know them in their depth, but I was
attracted by their ceremonials and ambiance.
For instance I'm attracted by the idea of
transzental meditation.
Most attracted by the missing central control.
To say I don't believe a paternity existence
of God.
I don't believe in a God who is sitting above
and says:
"You are right, you are wrong".
I think, He is everywhere and is much
bigger as we think He is.
Do you meditate?
Yes, but recently not as much as I liked to
do.
Are you afraid of death?
For that I have actually no fear!
Do you think there is a life after death?
I suspect in some way life is going on.
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